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Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

Went to a wedding this past weekend in Bowling Green, KY. Beautiful country up there even in winter. Lost river cave was cool.

Kristin Clement @kristin

It's amazing how far they've come since recovering from the Bowling Green Massacre.

Jessica Dennis @jessica

#neverforget

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

They built this little dam ~ 1000 feet (more? I suck at estimating) to get the water level deep enough to navigate

take boat rides through

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Swan boats? I've always wanted to operate a swan boat. I don't care how ridiculous they are.

Eric Sembrat @webbeh

Seriously. It just looks SO FUN. :dolphin:

Cartoons told me I'd like it.

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Cartoons never lie!

Ricardo Diaz @cubanx

In the neighborhood I used to live at, they had Swan paddle boats in the lake. Unfortunately, they did not have a gated community or cameras and folks liked to vandalize the poor birds :slightly_smiling_face: Was fun while it lasted...

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Why would anyone want to vandalize a swan boat? They're so cute!

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Kristin Clement @kristin

Cool, @robert.labrie! I may have to go check that out next time I'm in that part of KY. Husband's grandparents have a farm up there.

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

It was a bit soggy on Saturday so we stayed off the trails ... I expect it's spectacular in early autumn

Al Such @alsuch

Apparently Sweetwater Creek State Park has paddle boats. I know where I'm taking my fiancee this weekend. 3 bucks/half hour

John Corry @jcorry

@alsuch Unicoi park up past Helen has the same...super fun

Al Such @alsuch

nice!

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Frank Rietta @rietta

Squirrel update. I climbed a 28 ft ladder (not looking down) and spray foamed the hole last night when the squirrels were out foraging in the evening. Watched squirrel come and go to the roof several times last night and then go hide in a tree and cry for over an hour. Today saw two coming and going. Then at lunch time, witnessed a bunch of bite size chunks of foam on the ground. The squirrels broke back in. Next attempt will involve metal. I was tried the foam since it allowed me to keep one hand on the ladder the whole time.

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Oh man. I might have a squirrel in my house right now. My husband is home dealing with it (not because gender roles but because I'm the one with a go-to-the-office job) or maybe not dealing with it, I don't know. Crafty little buggers.

I had been willing to deceive myself that those sounds where coming from outside but apparently not

Frank Rietta @rietta

OH, my wife calls me her stay at home husband all the time. Gets chuckles in some circles.

Michael Langford @mj_langford

We have the squirrel catcher coming back soon

they sent out the rat catcher, who's apparently a different type of catcher

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Well squirrels have much fluffier tails so, you know. Different thing. :smile:

Michael Langford @mj_langford

They do point out that killing squirrels is often all that's required, no holes being fixed, as long as ingress isn't obvious

We've removed several trees, etc, but they appear to be getting on the roof via cable wires

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

@rietta is hardeeplank or cement board an option? Might be easier to work with than metal

Frank Rietta @rietta

I actually pruchased a single hardeeplank

would just need to cut it to size

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Would squirrels be able to yank it off if you staple-gunned a metal mesh to the wall?

Frank Rietta @rietta

The trick is making sure they’re not inside when you box them in or you have to start with one of those one way doors.

jessica. My understanding is no if you have it wide enough.

Putting up metal mesh on the inside of the attic over the vents is advisable too.

Jessica Dennis @jessica

My parents had to do that to keep birds out of their attic (in Hawaii)

(though probably birds everywhere are similarly inclined to nest in attics)

Frank Rietta @rietta

@robert.labrie I’m probably going to go with hardeeplank on the entire side within the next year. The side of the house is way past the age of the crap LP siding (that was recalled over a decade ago but of course whoever owned the house then didn’t replace it)

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

Yeah .... I know what you mean. For me it's the roof this year, the siding next year

north side of every house on my block (city? metro? state? world?) is a moss factory

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Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

There is a stunning cardinal perched on a branch outside my office chirping

Really brightening up my day

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Video or it didn't happen

(I will show it to my cat, who gets extra murder-feels toward cardinals)

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

I don't have the lenses needed for that kind of photography :disappointed:

It's on the list, maybe some day

Jessica Dennis @jessica

My hope was that cellphone video would be sufficient but by all means, keep planning to produce truly excellent videos for the enjoyment of, among other people, my cat (who is totally people ill fight you)

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

:smile: the Galaxy S7 has a fantastic camera but I;m not sure it's up to the task

Kristin Clement @kristin

I had a beautiful cardinal attack a kitchen window one Saturday a few years ago. He was relentless until I put painter's tape on the window. Our older cat kept jumping on the counter to try for a counterattack (pun intended).

falco @falco

Whether staple-gunning hardware cloth covers helps / last long depends a lot upon the condition of what you're stapling it into. A dense tough hardwood vs 20+yr-old softening pine 2x4 for example

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

We used to put our Christmas tree next to a large picture window in our living room ... birds kept trying to land in it :disappointed:

falco @falco

I've pulled a squirrel nest that was full of chunks of spray insulation being used as - insulation . Smart squirrel

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falco @falco

Give the screen a good solid tug after stapling it in. If it comes out or shifts at all, then a squirrel can eventually move it (they are pretty adept at moving things - surprisingly strong for their size)

If you have that LP "Lawsuit siding" up there, hoooboy. If it's not already swollen and damaged, the stapling will open up pathways for moisture infiltration

Kristin Clement @kristin

A couple of weeks ago, I was enjoying a snack at the kitchen's picture window while watching the critters run around in the backyard. Then I saw this dove flying at ramming speed towards me. I thought, surely that dove will land on the shepherd's hook by the window. Nope, flew straight into the glass right in front of my face scaring the bejesus out of me. Dove flew off and hopped around confused on my brick wall before flying away with a bruised ego and face.

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Jessica Dennis @jessica

Very entertained by bird-and-squirrel talk driving people away :smile:

Patrick Van Stee @vanstee

lol

All in favor of renaming #chit-chat to #squirrel-defense?

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

We've had a couple of cardinals over the years who persisted in fighting their reflections in a high windows (vaulted ceiling). One was so determined that he continued for WEEKS. We tried to scare him away every way we could think of, but we couldn't reach the window to put tape on it. I really thought he was going to kill himself. You would hear these loud WHACKs every time he came barnstorming in to attack his nemesis...

Michael Langford @mj_langford

I'm practically going to get an attic snake if this keeps up

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Now there's an idea

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

Is that a thing??

Michael Langford @mj_langford

Sometimes, not even a thing you install if you live in a climate with treesnakes

Jessica Dennis @jessica

How large a snake would one need? What would be the unintended consequences of an attic snake?

How much would one need to supplement its diet?

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

Gets into the ducts, consumes dog I guess

Michael Langford @mj_langford

lol

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

on hte box "Warning: May consume dog"

Patrick Van Stee @vanstee

@mj_langford: Pretty sure that's a SharkTank worthy idea

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

"This snake is known by the state of california to consume dogs"

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

Our first house had an attic snake. Big black snake. The home inspector thought it was a rubber snake (probably about 3 ft long). He darned near fell through the ceiling when he tried to pick up the "rubber" snake. He couldn't understand that I found it to be a plus instead of a negative...

Jessica Dennis @jessica

I wonder if the mere presence of a snake in the attic would deter rodent infestation, like if they have a snakey smell

Michael Langford @mj_langford

lol

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

@jessica I'm thinking of a Scooby Doo style attempt to just convince the squirrels there is a snake (or ghost)

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

jeffa00 Where was that? Here in GA?

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

Duluth

Super wooded lot

Like just enough space cut out for the house

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

You know the species?

Michael Langford @mj_langford

I am thinking about putting up those owl dummies in the backyard for the songbirds who like 5 am singing

Wonder if an animatroic snake would work

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

Rattlesnakes, black widows and brown recluse generally scare the hell out of me

Michael Langford @mj_langford

I'm sure I could go to the XPT workshops at puppetry.org and get enough help

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

My house is on a 3 foot crawl

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

Probably an indigo. Totally harmless

John Corry @jcorry

I wonder if you could get an attic snake from the same guy who gets rid of squirrels? Surely he gets calls to remove snakes from people's homes all the time, right?

just tell him, "hey when you get a snake, I'll give you $50 for it...come release it in my attic"

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

@jcorry OK, I'm going into animal relocation. Person who has squirrels gets the snake I caught, person who's house is overfilled with nuts gets the squirrel I caught, etc.

John Corry @jcorry

I would guess when food gets sparse in your attic though, it will relocate

lol @jeffa00 exactly

Jessica Dennis @jessica

The nuts are probably more a symptom of squirrels than something likely to be resolved by them

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

Or, now you just need the catcher to keep bringing in more squirrels to feed the snake.

Jessica Dennis @jessica

I didn't realize that squirrels don't keep track of their stashed food, they just sniff around for it and dig up whatever they find. Dirty commies, squirrels are

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

Just throwing this out there, but you can totally eat squirrels...

If you really want to get rid of them...

Chia Walter @chia.walter

They love tearing up the planters I have my haberos in. Ravenous little creatures!

John Corry @jcorry

yah they went after the roots of my jalapeños too...

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@jeffa00: so not worth it

Jessica Dennis @jessica

Probably if it were people would have domesticated them? Then again I guess deer haven't been officially domesticated and I've heard venison is pretty tasty

Since this was written five years ago it obviously didn't happen, but I find this really interesting anyway http://grist.org/animals/al-rodente-could-squirrel-meat-come-back-into-vogue/

And if anyone is monitoring my search history they are very — something — right now

Jeff Ammons @jeffa00

lol

I can neither confirm nor deny that squirrel stew with dumplings is delicious.

Robert Labrie @robert.labrie

raided our bulbs as well, my wife was frustrated

I wonder if I should surround my bulbs with sweetgum balls next year

David Hester @dhester

Love venison but can't confirm squirrel meat :stuck_out_tongue:

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Frank Rietta @rietta

I suspect squirrel cannot taste that much different than rabbit. Roasted rabbit as actually pretty good. Experienced from a very rural bachelor party that involved. It was on a vineyard in south Georgia and the owner said we could shoot all the rabbits we wanted because they were a pest to the crop.

Jessica Dennis @jessica

In the article above it says rabbits, as grass-eaters, are blander

Apparently the nut content of the squirrel's diet gives it a superior flavor. Though who knows what the garbage content of a suburban squirrel's diet would do. Probably nothing good.