Travis Rosenbaum @trosenbaum

Looks like it—so @jcorry if you ever want to get your CoCo online and on BBSes again, you can connect it to telnet with one of these, I use one with my HP as a modem: http://subethasoftware.com/2018/02/28/wire-up-your-own-rs-232-wifi-modem-for-under-10-using-esp8266-and-zimodem-firmware/

Basically an ESP microcontroller board plus an rs232 adapter and special firmware

John Corry @jcorry

Oh...that was like 35 years ago

I don’t still have it...I have a MacBook now

Travis Rosenbaum @trosenbaum

Haha, well if you ever wanted to relive some nostalgia at some future point, there’s a very active group of folks keeping these retro machines alive and connected :)

I actually got dialup working over Google Voice with my USRobotics modem and some other modules, was fun for a bit

John Corry @jcorry

That museum really ought to do workshops/meetups where you can see how all that old stuff actually worked

THAT would be interesting

Tanya Mott @tmott13

That would really be interesting ^

It was cool to get my space nerd on as well

Travis Rosenbaum @trosenbaum

Oh that reminds me, Mrs. Mimms came up and introduced herself while I was there and says they are indeed planning on starting community workshops on various technical topics, and also a coding workshop series for kids to learn to code.

The guy that was working at the counter said one of the things they are focused on that’s different from other museums is the hardware and software vs. a mainly business history focus. He also said they were going to be adding a LOT more historic Apple artifacts upstairs.

Re: the kids coding, she said it was part of the “forward” focus of their motto, and that it would be via a group that has been doing that sort of work for a long time, with collaboration with MIT/Stanford so it sounds like they’re serious about it.

John Corry @jcorry

That sounds great. The guy I talked to didn’t say anything about any of that. That sounds like a really good use of their space and charter.

Scott Toney @ascotttoney

Damn, this place looks awesome.

John Corry @jcorry

It’s not https://www.computerhistory.org/ but it’s pretty good for Roswell

Tanya Mott @tmott13

I didn't want to post a pic to spoil anything but definitely go check it out if you haven't already

Scott Toney @ascotttoney

Fur sure.

Tanya Mott @tmott13

I thought it was really funny that the staff thought I was super young, they were surprised to hear that I grew up with a lot of the tech that was on display haha and that I'm a software dev.

Allen Reinmeyer @areinmeyer

this looks really cool! My son’s 5th birthday is coming up and he’s into robots. Would love to take him there for some workshops and spark some interest.

Zachary Sarver @zsarver

I had other things to do this weekend, but I saw the museum sneak peak at the vintage computer festival. It was pretty great. I look forward to going again

John Corry @jcorry

Several people there asked where I heard about them, I told them all #tech404…none of them had any idea what this is.

Perhaps there’s an opportunity for some outreach

Tanya Mott @tmott13

indeed

Pete Holiday @toomuchpete

Tech404 but as a 501(c) org.

Dan Nicodemo @danodemo

GitHub having issues for anyone this morning?

Alex Riviere @fimion

oh good it’s not just me

Erik Olson @erkolson
Alex Riviere @fimion

yeah, i had been checking that

hadn’t popped up yet

guess it is time for lunch

Erik Olson @erkolson

This except "waiting for github to come back"

Tanya Mott @tmott13

haha

it is def lunch time

Tanya Mott @tmott13

I have not but glad to hear it

nshttpd @nshttpd

yes, it's .. well I know what it is. Let me read the article to see if they say.

although ... still no dark theme.

Keith Nash @tallkeith

nshttpd @nshttpd

the guts of it got re-written to me much smarter in how ti works within electron. Overall it should be much less of a memory hog

Scott Toney @ascotttoney

As someone new to all of this, it must be so nerve-racking to rewrite something that works well and people are familiar with, and have it work just like it did the day before but better.

Dan Nicodemo @danodemo

IDK in a way its easier, because you already have an idea of what everything is supposed to do

Justin Doak @jhdoak

That's assuming you've got good documentation. Going into a rewrite of an application where business logic and edge cases aren't clearly defined or documented is terrifying.

"Some team wrote this 10 years ago, nobody involved in the process is around anymore, we want it to work the same way, please."

Cain @cain.skelton

from the article it doesn’t sound like a total rewrite

more of a UI port with some back-end upgrades

Justin Doak @jhdoak

Ah yeah, I guess in reference to the Slack article it doesn't sound so bad.

I missed that part of the conversation, was responding more to the general idea of a rewrite or restructure of something existing.

Cain @cain.skelton

oh yeah for sure, generally having to re-create something that people already know/like/are familiar with when you don’t have exact documentation can be terrifying

Bob Elwell @robert.elwell

if github's not going to work then let's all take the day off

Tobyn Baugher @tobyn

programming is hard. let's go shopping

Cain @cain.skelton

now there’s an old reference

Pete Holiday @toomuchpete

Are GH Pages down, too?

topher Dick @topher

Anybody have any reason not to buy this monitor? https://www.amazon.com/LG-34BK95U-W-UltraFine-UltraWide-Thunderbolt/dp/B07JP1QK9T#HLCXComparisonWidget_feature_div Recommendations for better 5K UW monitors?

Michael Langford @mj_langford

/jealous

nshttpd @nshttpd

it's not curved.

Keith Nash @tallkeith

Best reason I can think of to not buy it is that it is an $1100 monitor

nshttpd @nshttpd

that's my only reason not to.

Stephen Harper @deltaedge

video card not powerful enough for native resolution?

topher Dick @topher

I have a brand-new MacBook Pro - seems like it should be enough to drive the monitor at retina resolution….

the company is picking up part of the cost, so it’s not an $1100 monitor “to me”

@nshttpd - I can’t seem to find a curved 5K UW monitor… I’d really like it to provide power to the macbook (so I don’t have to have more cables than necessary)… do you have a recommendation for one?

Michael Langford @mj_langford

topher: The big struggle is making sure the new MBP will drive it at 60hz

They often will say that on amazon

Cain @cain.skelton

what if you got any monitor you wanted and used a USB-C dock do you only had to plug/unplug one cable?

Michael Langford @mj_langford

Or not

But you may need a second cable for power to get that

nshttpd @nshttpd

I haven't looked in a while. I've got a curved Dell 34" one that I picked up three or so years ago.

Michael Langford @mj_langford

And with that wide of a monitor, you may get flicker in the corner of your eye at 30hz

Cain @cain.skelton

I had good luck driving two monitors + mouse + keyboard + wired internet + MBP power all through one USB-C cable to my MBP with a Startech dock

Michael Langford @mj_langford

I know for several of my montors, I could not achieve 2 at 60hz without using display port instead of thunderbolt

>Thunderbolt 3 >With a single cable for video, audio, and data transfers, as well as simultaneous laptop charging up to 85W, this versatile and compact port enables 40 Gb/s data transfers and high-bandwidth video, including a 4K signal to two different screens, or 5K/60 fps to a single screen. so I'd say try this, and send it back if it fails for your particular mac

topher Dick @topher

I would accept a dock solution - but I’m not clear that it’s “better”… I like the idea of an UW so I get all the real-estate of two monitors without the middle bar. I can’t find a 5K curved UW (with or without thunderbolt).

(it has been a LONG TIME since I did any research on monitors… This “work from home” thing has inspired so many changes…)

Michael Langford @mj_langford

USB-C docs and macbooks are stil...iffy

Like 99% of my reboots are still related to cabling/usb things

like coming out of sleep when plugged in while the mbp is asleep can reboot the mac for some docks, etc. I think you should go with the monitor.

db @jski

Are there any mac docs that let you drive the external monitor with the GPU

evan @evanseeds

literally just had to reboot my MBP because plugging in my dock froze the entire system

nshttpd @nshttpd

I just have a USB dongle that hangs off and use HDMI to drive the monitor.

Scott Toney @ascotttoney

New Slack app does run much faster for me. On MB Air.

Alex Riviere @fimion

https://www.kensington.com/p/products/connectivity/universal-laptop-docking-stations/sd4610p-usb-c-5gbps-dual-1080p-docking-station-w-90w-adapter-dphdmi-winchromemac/?r=1

i just picked up onne of these for my MBP and dell xps15

though i actually got the SD4600P

so it is only 60W

but yeah, thunderbolt docks are iffy because operating systems were not designed with hotswapping your video card out of your pci bus.

so that concept is very new

Patryk Prus @patryk

i’ve had good luck with https://www.caldigit.com/ts3-plus, though i don’t drive an external card with it