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With Net Neutrality dead I was thinking about the future of the internet and ended up with a question specific about Georgia/Atlanta.
Does anyone know if there has ever been attempted municipal isps around here?
If so did they try and fail, blocked by the big boys, or what happened?
Also does everything think we’ll be seeing a rise in people trying to start them around the country once the large isps start doing crazy restrictions of content?
there is already a movement for this sort of thing. Private ISP is operating in Brookyn IIRC.
ATL will be hard bc ATT is here.
But, by all means, worth a shot. It's all technically legal, but you'll likely have to do it wirelessly.
Yeah, I have a lot of questions around it
Is the wired infrastrure state owned, or do you have to go through whoever laid it (eg. att, comcast, etc) to get access to it
What kinda crazy long drawn process would that look like trying to get access to it
Judging from Google's lack of success with Fiber in the ATL market, it's a nightmare.
I wouldn’t call what Google did a lack of success
I think to add a wire to a telephone pole, you need approval of every other carrier currently on that pole
Google’s “investment” into fiber in ATL is what has directly caused AT&T and Comcast to step up their game in the ’net market.
And Google’s business model is not about home internet service
They make money on ads
The faster people surf, the more ads are shown, the more money Google makes
They can throw money away in markets to spur competition to step up and fill a needed gap that, in the end, benefits Google directly
It's a shame Google had to force ATT's hand. A lot of the fiber in ATL was laid years ago and it's been dark while ATT claims that "infastructure" is too expensive. A lot of that fiber was also co-funded with tax money.
See also: tax breaks that don't do anything for employees or individuals.
AT&T did have to lay new fiber in our neighborhood, but we have it now and it's awesome.
re: muni internet, it’s incredibly tempting to buy some cheap mesh ’net devices and scatter them about town… That isn’t exactly muni, but it could fill an interested role.
i've enjoyed watching this one youtuber build his own ISP in rural england
we’ve got fiber in our area, but they don’t sell gigabit here yet :disappointed: they came through and laid all new lines last year or the year before
but until they offer the gigabit i’m not switching
It took ~ year from when they laid the fiber until they actually offered gigabit at our house. Don't give up hope!
i got that gigabit after about two months
gigabit isn't bad, but I swear it was getting throttled at times
before NN officially cancelled that is
they tore up my street, but it was worth it
my buddy in Buford LOVES gigabit, I’m near the north end of Forsyth County and every time I see AT&T going door to door in the area I get hopeful, but so far no dice
I’ve got att fiber here, but I am seriously looking at the logistics of starting an isp if att/comcast become more fubar than they currently are.
I thought they were, but every time I tried to prove it I ended up proving the opposite. :man-shrugging:
also, i have a friend who just started a "we bury fiber cables" business and he is overwhelmed with work, every single city town neighborhood street wants it
@toomuchpete throttling or something else?
lol Bruce, I'll be your first customer man
If you decided to bury wire you don’t need the approval of the other people right? Just city approval at that point?
Every time I thought they were throttling something, more rigorous testing proved otherwise.
I put up a VPN on an EC2 instance and I could stream much faster from Youtube than when I was not on it
So I just stopped bothering. I'm getting 250mpbs over wifi, so....
This was like specific sites
their "bury fiber" business gets hired by ISPs as well as like neighborhood developers and builders
but it doesn't always happen and hasn't really been that noticeable recently so I don't think it was intentional per se
fast in by netflix and it’s on their boxes they stream from so you can catch the isps throttling easy
Yeah I'm sure someone could give more details or what is really going on, but my guess is that a bunch of people in the area were all streaming YT and OpenVPN on AWS just lets you take a different less-congested route?
That'd be my guess, but who knows. It's AT&T. Could be malice, too.
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ all day err day!
The only time I disconnect from it is when playing online video games for the latency
I tried NordVPN a while back but it was all over the place with speed
pia is pretty consistent for me
The only thing I wish it had was an access point inside “The Great Chinese Firewall” for my wife to access stuff sites that are only hosted inside it.
You can do this too with a t2.micro for free, just a bit of work, https://hackernoon.com/using-a-vpn-server-to-connect-to-your-aws-vpc-for-just-the-cost-of-an-ec2-nano-instance-3c81269c71c2
Just pay bandwidth
I use Speedify fairly regularly because I can connect to whatever junk bandwidth I can get hold of and it makes the best out of it
What a coincidence, I just started reading that article from Hackernoon yesterday afternoon.
Chris, This is a more complete one that I originally used if you're on windows https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/how-to-make-your-own-free-vpn-using-amazon-web-services/
I'm not on windows, but I'll read it anyways. Couldn't hurt!
It just uses PuTTY instead of a shell session for SSH
Yeah I looked over it real quick and that was the first thing I noticed
This was probably posted on here a month ago, but it's a good article about the story of Google Fiber in Atlanta: http://www.atlantamagazine.com/great-reads/what-happened-google-fiber-atlanta/